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ZipperheadPino,

     The crux of your .. well… whatever the hell you call it, seems to be … If it’s unfair that she should have to pay for that, why is it fair that I have to pay for that?

     I’m not gonna answer that yet.

    

     So, as an american, you are against every american citizen having access to affordable health care?

     I’d assume you are against that.

     But I’d assume that you are against you paying for it.

 

     I’ve got no clue what Molly did and didn’t do. 

     Dude she works for me.  I try to keep our relationship a working one.  If she asks for advice, i’ll give what I can to help.

 

     So let’s talk about Iraq for a second…

     why is it fair that I have to pay for that?

 

     So answer…

 

     You pay for a bunch of thing you might not believe in with your taxes… Democratic Government officials, stupid earmarked projects in NC (and the US), all those goverment funded groups that prove Global Warming exists, the list goes on and on…

 

     Why the hoopla over basic health care for all americans?

    

     Is it Pino and his family only?

 

     Isn’t your $250,000 (ballparked) enough for 4 people? 

     Would an extra (I don’t know, say $500 bucks a year) keep food off your table?

 

     My family (at less than $250,000) can afford it.

 

     And the weird thing is that you have a financial advisor.  We don’t. 

     If you fire his/her ass you might just help the poor/unfortunate.

 

     I’m not trippin’

     Why?

     Palin/Limbaugh 2012!

    

     The King has spoken.

 

    

 

    

 

    

    

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So Dear Flaco,

You have a dear fellow employee at your place of business.  I seem to remember that she has health insurance, right?  And, some time ago, she became sick and went to the doctor’s office.  There, the doc determined that she needed a shot of some kind and administered said shot.  Right?

And then she got sick?

Which caused her to undergo a hospital stay that ended up costing her ~9 grand.

Right?  Am I close?

And you seem to think that this is an unfair burden to be placed upon this woman/girl so early in life.  That somehow, this run of bad luck could somehow destroy her or set her far enough back that she may never recover?

So now, some questions.

  1. Has she disputed the bills with both the hospital AND the insurance company?
  2. Is she taking full advantage of both HSA and FSA accounts?
  3. Given that she has disputed the bills and lost, has she gone to the hospital to work out a payment plan?
  4. Has she investigated local, state or federal aid packages that may ALREADY be available?
  5. Are their local charities that she may apply for?
  6. Does she have family that can help her out?

If she has gone through all of that work and is still staring at 9 grand, do you really think that it’s unfair for her to have to pay for that?  Why?  If it’s unfair that she should have to pay for that, why is it fair that I have to pay for that?

Love,

-pino

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Dear Flaco,

So, Obama has decided that he is going to make a stand on this whole National Health Care thing.  He feels that America is not providing for her citizens and that many are going uncared for.  In fact, the number 47 million has been tossed around.  As in, there are 47 million uninsured people in the United States.

Can you help me clear up some confusion I have?

  1. How many of those 47 million are not even citizens?
  2. How many of those 47 million are kids now covered under S-CHIP?
  3. How many of those 47 million are people that make more than 300% of the FPL [poverty level] and choose not to purchase insurance?
  4. How many of those 47 million people have the ability to obtain insurance under existing government programs?

And then, when you are done obtaining –wait for it—–FACTS, please help me in determining how financially secure the French system is right now.

In advance –  Thanks,

-pino

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Dear Flaco,

So, now that Obama has managed to Socialize the auto industry, the bank industry and the insurance industry he is going after the health care industry.  If you listen to him, or to the news, which is really just the White House Public Relations division, you hear that our nation’s health care industry is broken.  That we pay too much and receive not enough.  In fact, I think if you listen long enough or careful enough you will eventually hear the evidence.

The United States has the highest health care costs and we rank 37th in quality.

And it kinda ends there. As if no further proof is needed or required.  We pay the most.  And we suck.  End of debate.

So, the answer is, or has to be, that the government is required to step ion and fix the problem.  Heck, not even that, we’re supposed to believe that the government is required to take on the problem.  In short, becaue we feel some how that the state of the industry is in such disarray, we are left with NO other option but to let the government step in and run the place.

All of this is weighty and tough stuff.  No one thinks that health insurance or medical care should be taken lightly.  So, let’s go through the process, shall we, at how Obama arrives at his conclusion:

  1. Wow.  We pay the most!
  2. Hmmm, but we don’t RANK 1st.
  3. Determine valid metrics to identify real goals and measures.
  4. Validate statistics.
  5. Study the industry.
  6. Identify strengths and weaknesses.
  7. Conduct process analysis to identify possible solutions.
  8. Matrix solutions with costs and risks.
  9. Create a list of ranked solutions.
  10. Work down that list.
  11. Realize that no solution can work; farm out the responsibility to the government.

How does THAT work?  How is it, that given the critical nature of this whole conversation, almost zero work has been done?  Why do we simply read an excerpt from some source that we don’t investigate, ignore ALL other real life steps and just skip ahead to government must assume responsibility for this situation.

I challeneg you to begin to break this down like you would in the business world.  In a “health care world”, what is it that we expect?  How would we measure that?  How do we think that should be delivered?  What are we trying to attain?

Before you tell me that the only fix is government, you should at least tell me what’s broken and why.

Love,

-pino

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Mr. “Social Liberal”,

So, I need to letcha in on a little secret.

Tell me…

As a conservative, it’s not my goal to make the rich richer or keep the poor poorer.

Which is why tax cuts for rich benefit EVERYONE!

I don’t think it’s okay to ignore those in need, ignore those who require help.

EXCEPT Universal Health Care.

I really really wanna make the world a better place for as many people as possible.  And really, that means that I want the world to be better for more people tomorrow than it was for people yesterday.

Like Global Warming?

HOAX!

F#$%ing LIBERAL HOAX!

LESS GOVERNMENT!

LESS TAXES!

So.  Quick Reality Check.  Whats the difference between The Government and Big Business?

We as Americans; can pick a new leader for our government, and are (honestly) stuck with our corporate leaders.  They are protected by their boards.  A corporate board is as slow and; as much or more so (it’s easier to hide the money),  influenced as any house or senate,  on replacing an inefficient leader.

At least, in business, you expect them to be corrupt.

P.S.   Both are corrupt.

So what to do…..?

Educate my soft mushy Liberal Mind.

If I elected you,  what would pino do?

xoxo billy

P.S.  I’m not so much for the stimulus package.  I understand the intentions … but I do believe that things gotta sort themself out.

But,  I’ll also say that we can’t just turn a blind eye….

SO and HOWEVER,

Somethings got to be done…

Everyone who is now unemployed is now claiming unemployment (at the least).  State Budgets are under plan and they are cutting major things, i.e. education, police, transportation projects, etc….  So who’s the real victim?

The amount of $ the government is pouring out will increase.  (For at least a year.)  Mass jobs are getting cut and it will continue for at least this year and probably next year too.

The average home-owner has seen their home value (and 401k plan) plummet.  And Social Security has no more cash in 2041.

And per a previous discussion you hinted toward let it fall and bottom out.  Pretty easy to say…..  since you have a job.

And Big Business a shown what an awesome job they do unchecked…. (like banks…  dumbass  … xoxo)

If I elected you,  what would pino do?

I’ll let molly know…

NOTHING.

PALIN/LIMBAUGH 2012!!!!!!!!!!!

I ALSO LIKE TO GO TO THE DENTIST!!!!!!!!

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Dear Flaco,

So, I need to letcha in on a little secret.  As a conservative, it’s not my goal to make the rich richer or keep the poor poorer.  I don’t think it’s okay to ignore those in need, ignore those who require help.  I really really wanna make the world a better place for as many people as possible.  And really, that means that I want the world to be better for more people tomorrow than it was for people yesterday.

In short:  You haven’t cornered the market on touchy feely, needs of the people, make the world a better place.

However, you and I do differ in one key  quality:  I don’t think that you can change natural law.  You, on the other hand, do.  Imagine my folly, when announcing that I would love to fly–like Superman-I learned that gravity was not subject to toggling “off”.

Back to health care, just for a second try to stay with me here.  Let’s use our favorite topic of all time–beer.  Good ‘ol faithful beer.  So, here is something that we love like and feel that we really kinda need want.  With me still?  Okay okay, sorry.  Go grab a beer.  I’ll wait.

Come one….you don’t need a glass!  Just get back over here!

Alright, back to it.  Beer.  In demand.  As in, really in demand.  So, why don’t they just raise the price of beer?  I mean, why bother with making beer that people wanna drink, just go out and raise the price.  Budweiser, in their annual meeting,  should simply decide what kind of revenue they would like to make and simply raise the price of their beer to accomplish that goal.  Serious.  These CEO’s are so wicked and evil, why should they allow the price of beer to dip to the levels that a working Joe <there’s Palin again–gotta love her> can afford it?

Ya wanna know why?  Because as soon as they do that, other beer companies come in and say, well, hell, I’ll charge just a dime less, steal all his customers.  And the rest, you see, is just an excercise in supply and demand.

So now, back to health care.  When a doctor puts out a shingle, he is proud, takes a picture and sends it to his mom!  He should be, big day, champion day!  And why not?  He’s worked hard, struggled hard to finish school, and boy did he, years and years of it.  And now, finally, he has his own—-wait, umm, yeah, about that med school.  Our hero has some bills to pay, and they ain’t no small kinda bills.  So now, he nervously looks at his shingle and, oops, notices he’s the only one on the sidewalk!  No sick people yet.  But, by God, he’ll make his money.  Oh yeah, he’ll make his.  But they never come.  Why?  Cuase he charges too much!  Nah–couldn’t be that!  That’s free market crazy talk!

But it’s true.  Even evil doctors have to obey the law of the market.  And in the end, they will only charge what the market will bare.

And I hear it already–sigh–.
The INSURANCE companies are the ones that are billing us, not the doctor!!!  When we sign up for insurance we are forced to see a doctor, can’t see another one, and he is now free to charge whatever he wants!!!  Damn it, damn it all!!  Evil evil rich!

And lets not forget, shall we, that precisely because of this free market system, all of us victims of the evil rich health care machine are the healthiest people in the history of the planet.  Ever.

But, alas, I have to admit it.  Here, I think, you are right.  The prices we pay ARE too high.  The system does need work.  We can remove costs from the whole process just about everywhere you look.  But the dirty secret is that the best way to do this is NOT by increasing government.  It’s by decreasing government.  It’s by allowing new players to enter into the market.  Allowing new insurance methods to be invented and refined.  It’s about letting customers, US, demand lower prices and higher quality by giving us the biggest hammer known–choice!

So you see, in the end, we are the same.  We both want Molly to be able to go see a doctor and walk away with good service and care at a fair price.  We just differ in the method.  I wanna let what has worked in every other niche of the market work here.  You wanna give this responsibility to the government, so wildly successful as to create this monster: Medicare.

Medicare wastes more money than any other federal program, yet its strong public support leaves lawmakers hesitant to address program effi­ciencies, which cost taxpayers and Medicare recip­ients billions of dollars annually.

For example, Medicare pays as much as eight times what other federal agencies pay for the same drugs and medical supplies. The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) recently com­pared the prices paid by Medicare and the Depart­ment of Veterans Affairs (VA) health care program for 16 types of medical equipment and supplies, which account for one-quarter of Medicare’s equip­ment and supplies purchases. The evidence showed that Medicare paid an average of more than double what the VA paid for the same items. The largest difference was for saline solution, with Medicare paying $8.26 per liter compared to the $1.02 paid by the VA.

Does it feel good to have the people we elect do things that seem to help us?  Sure, hell yeah!  But when we start letting the government do things that it wasn’t created to do, we run into the danger of having that government run programs whose end result is not, in this case better health care, but rather is more votes.

Serious.  DMV.  You don’t think that in FIVE minutes you couldn’t positively affect the wait time and reduce it by 50%?  5 minutes.  And you want these people to run your health care.

You.  Are crazy.

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Dude,

She’s (Palin’s) a gem….

i.e.

(You wrote) However, giving me a story of  one girl doesn’t change cold hard facts:

  1. Health or medical care is limited
  2. We need/want more of it than can be supplied
  3. It must be rationed
  4. When that rationing method is price, it leads to lower prices and more availability

O.K.  then…Palin style…

(I’m gonna Palin my way all over the place….)

Now we’ll warp back to Climate Change/Global Warming…

Energy Sources (are limited)

1.     A. Our current sources of power are limited; ……

B. And Green Technology (wind,solar,water,etc…) .. it  isn’t infinite….   but it is way closer…

C. We’re gonna run out of gas and coal.  And those affect our environment negatively.

D. We could ration our own prices for gas/power….

(We need/want more of it than can be supplied….)

2.     See above…

(It must be rationed …)

3.     Yes.

But Really….

(Now we’re back to Republican vs. Democrat…)

(When that rationing method is price, it leads to lower prices and more availability…)

4.     So when everyone wants to buy a mustang… dude….

Do  the prices get lower?

Or Higher for more profit?

So…

for an example…

One (i.e. A Republican) might think… (and you wrote…) When that rationing method is price, it leads to lower prices and more availability

One (i.e. A Democrat) would think …..    that when something is rationed by price ….      and it’s in demand (i.e. like health care) ..

the prices can be increased.   And who gets hurt by those increases?

(Go Palin!  I’m all over the place and it’s O.K.  Back to Health Care…)

I.E.  MOLLY

So…(Palin/Limbaugh 2012)

If your f#$%ing dying …. what price is too much?

If your in constant pain… what price is too much?

If a loved one (i.e. your parent, spouse or child) is in need of help…. what price is too much?

So.

(You wrote) Serious.  Stop sending me this minor league business.  Give me facts.

Serious. If you can’t look at something with your heart and soul, why would I worry about your … facts(mind)?

Because it takes all three, Pino.

(And Texted) My Friend ………when did you stray from the path?

As soon as I realized your path was a dead end.

Humbly Flaco.

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